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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Wendy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thank you for the quick answer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I have still a couple of comments and questions, see below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Achim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> ddi-users-bounces@icpsr.umich.edu [mailto:ddi-users-bounces@icpsr.umich.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Wendy Thomas<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Mittwoch, 19. November 2014 19:23<br>
<b>To:</b> Data Documentation Initiative Users Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DDI-users] Questions related to QuestionGrid<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">see below<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Wackerow, Joachim <<a href="mailto:Joachim.Wackerow@gesis.org" target="_blank">Joachim.Wackerow@gesis.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I looked at a use case of the ESS (European Social Survey) round 6 questionnaire. Now I have some questions and comments related to QuestionGrid.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">With some of them I’m pushing probably the limits of the current approach in 3.2.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Any thoughts on the questions and comments would be appreciated.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">1. Resulting variables<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">One use case is that each question (i.e. row) in a grid results in a variable. The variable can only reference the whole QuestionGrid, but not the individual question. This is not
really satisfying.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Are there any other possibilities?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is the reason for In/Out Parameters and generation instructions that support the distribution of looped questions or grid response arrays. The variable can reference a generation instruction and define the binding as well as the item
in the array that it uses. See examples created at Dagstuhl training this year. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">[JW] I’m not sure which examples you mean. The whole approach with In/Out Parameters for the purpose to make a relation from a variable to a piece of
a question grid seems to be quite complicated. Please elaborate on this, also regarding the related (3) with question number.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(the source questionnaire is still in PAPI, other modes may use other numbers)<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">2. Reuse of single questions in a grid<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">A single question in a grid (or a subset of a grid) could be reused in another grid or as single question (this happens sometimes in new waves of the same survey). But questions
in a grid are realized as CodeScheme/CategoryScheme. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">A single code could be referenced to reuse the Code/Category as question in another context, but this seems to be awkward. Did I miss something?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is the "question" a part of dimension CodeList or a response domain? each can be reused as needed. Note that any use of a CodeList can be limited to a level, range or object.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">[JW] I think I meant the use case where real/complete questions are in the rows of the grid. An individual question could be used as a single question
in another context.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Maybe this is then not a real grid but a collection of multiple question items (like in 3.1). What should then be used in 3.2 for this purpose?</span></i></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">How can QuestionGrids be reused and a question number be assigned to each individual question (in a row)?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Once again, the same way any question is reused. The path of the data can be defined by In Out parameters, a Generation Instruction and a Variable defining the binding between the out parameter of the question construct and the in parameter
of the instruction. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">4. Alternative to QuestionGrid<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">In the use case (mentioned below), a QuestionGroup could be another option. Then the issues 1-3 from above can be solved. The semantics are a little different.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">A workaround could be to use a QuestionGrid which refers by BasedOnObject to the QuestionGroup.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Question Groups are administrative objects and cannot be used as the content of a QuestionConstruct. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">[JW] OK. How can then MultipleQuestionItem (3.1) be replaced beside with QuestionGrid</span></i></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">5. Dimensions in a grid<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I looked at the example (slide 14, 15) in the EDDI13 presentation “To 3.2 or Not to 3.2? That is the Question” at
<a href="http://www.eddi-conferences.eu/ocs/index.php/eddi/EDDI13/paper/view/117" target="_blank">
http://www.eddi-conferences.eu/ocs/index.php/eddi/EDDI13/paper/view/117</a>.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The slide can show only a XML fragment. Now I’m wondering how “Older than Patient” and “Younger than patient” are realized, when “Number still alive” would be rank 1 (is rank 2
not the appropriate solution?).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Related question: How can it be described when one dimension has a different type of response domain than the grid? A GridDimension can have only a CodeDomain.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">[JW] Sorry, I made apparently two topics with (5). Do you have comments on this?</span></i></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">5. Misleading semantics regarding questions in a grid?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The individual questions in a grid are not realized as QuestionItem but as Code/Category. The semantics seem to be wrong. Why was the use of QuestionItem not possible? This would
have solved the issues 1 and 2 from above. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The question is asked regarding a number of objects (defined in a CodeList/CategoryScheme or roster. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">6. Mix of representational and structural information?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I’m not really clear about this. But my impression is that there is not a clear distinction between structural and representational information.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">There seem to be multiple levels (in the use case below):<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>-<span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>The atomic level of an item (in the grid), like a question or an answer category.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>-<span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>The compound object of question and answer categories.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>-<span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>The question sequence (in a grid) with the same answer categories.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>-<span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>Some representational/rendering information (for example the answer categories are not repeated but only mentioned at the top). This could be differently arranged in different modes.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There are those looking at 4 that say all grids could be defined as loops. We need to look at this further as the response of INSEE staff to this suggestion (who use grids extensively) was a definite shudder.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">This is probably more an issue for DDI 4 and will need some further analysis.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Reference:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">ESS round 6 questionnaire<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Page 5, starting with “CARD 5 Using this card, please tell me on a score of 0-10 how much you” in the document at:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a href="http://www.europeansocialsurvey.org/docs/round6/fieldwork/source/ESS6_source_main_questionnaire.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.europeansocialsurvey.org/docs/round6/fieldwork/source/ESS6_source_main_questionnaire.pdf</a>.<o:p></o:p></p>
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