[DDI-SRG] [CDI] Questions about ControlledVocabularyEntry, PairedControlledVocabularyEntry and Reference

Sat Aug 21 18:46:26 EDT 2021

I saw the definition, it's just that it doesn't seem to align with its 
use in Activity

standardModelUsed is defined as

/"If a standard process model such as The Generic Statistical Business 
Process Model (GSBPN), the Generic Longitudinal Business Process Model 
(GLBPM), Open Archive Information System model (OAIS), etc. has been 
related to this business process, the model and step or sub-step is 
noted here using the Paired External Controlled Vocabulary Entry. 
//*Enter the name of the model in "term" and the step, sub-step, or 
specific portion of the model in "extent"*//./

That seems to align better with Reference than with 
PairedControlledVocabularyEntry, since we need to refer to a schema, 
e.g. "GSBPM", and then to an element in the schema, e.g. "edit & 
imputation". I don't see how to map "GSBPM" to term and "edit & 
imputation" to extent...

Flavio

On 2021-08-21 6:09 p.m., Hoyle, Larry wrote:
>
> term is a ControlledVocabularyEntry
>
> extent is a degree of the term. It has the description:
>
> “Describes the extent to which the parent term applies for the 
> specific case using an external controlled vocabulary. When associated 
> with a role from the CASRAI Contributor Roles Taxonomy an appropriate 
> vocabulary should be specified as either ‘lead’, ‘equal’, or 
> ‘supporting’.”
>
> In the example from the Credit taxonomy one could be credited as being 
> the “lead” conceptualizer, or “equal”, or “supporting”.
>
> http://credit.niso.org/implementing-credit/ 
> <http://credit.niso.org/implementing-credit/>
>
> This was done to disambiguate the use of author order in citing 
> contributors. In some disciplines the first author is the lead. In 
> others the head of a larger project might be listed last.
>
> Larry
>
> *From:* Flavio Rizzolo <flavio.rizzolo at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 21, 2021 4:59 PM
> *To:* Hoyle, Larry <larryhoyle at ku.edu>; DDI Structural Reform Working 
> Group. <ddi-srg at icpsr.umich.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [DDI-SRG] [CDI] Questions about 
> ControlledVocabularyEntry, PairedControlledVocabularyEntry and Reference
>
> Oh, I see what you mean. I'll fix that.
>
> Ok, so vocabulary is a "Reference", not a "String". I'll fix that too.
>
> Back to my last question: how is the use of "entryReference" and 
> "entryValue" in the example different from "extent" and "term" in 
> PairedControlledVocabulary?
>
> Other questions:
>
> - CatalogDetail:  This structured data type has no definition, no 
> subclasses and no structure. What is it? How can it be used in its 
> current state?
>
> - DataPoint: Why does it have now a catalogDetails attribute? Why 
> DataPoint and not DataSet or other classes in Data Description? The 
> use of CatalogDetails is unclear
>
> On 2021-08-21 5:34 p.m., Hoyle, Larry wrote:
>
>     ControlledVocabularyEntry should be able to reference an entry
>     outside of DDI. So that entryReference should be Reference, not
>     Native Reference. It would be better to ditch the inheritance of
>     ControlledVocabularyEntry from NativeControlledVocabularyEntry and
>     just have a separate ControlledVocabularyEntry with all of the
>     properties it has below.
>
>     Here is an example.
>
>     vocabulary  is a reference to http://credit.niso.org/
>     <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcredit.niso.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7Clarryhoyle%40ku.edu%7Cb716aeec0aa24a86a36908d964eeec37%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637651799597839594%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=a5QDrUmFeaEDtG1zXUWVYzKmt1g4gXekhLUombLCm9I%3D&reserved=0>
>     the Credit Taxonomy (via the uri of Reference)
>
>     controlledVocabularyName is “the Credit Taxonomy”
>
>     entryReference is
>     http://credit.niso.org/contributor-roles/conceptualization/
>     <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcredit.niso.org%2Fcontributor-roles%2Fconceptualization%2F&data=04%7C01%7Clarryhoyle%40ku.edu%7Cb716aeec0aa24a86a36908d964eeec37%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637651799597849589%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=YH6TLJ6RJWsLIObde%2FAtys3EoFxg6x8NQohnpZYv0qY%3D&reserved=0>
>
>
>     entryValue is “Conceptualization”
>
>     *From:* ddi-srg-bounces at icpsr.umich.edu
>     <mailto:ddi-srg-bounces at icpsr.umich.edu>
>     <ddi-srg-bounces at icpsr.umich.edu>
>     <mailto:ddi-srg-bounces at icpsr.umich.edu> *On Behalf Of *Flavio Rizzolo
>     *Sent:* Saturday, August 21, 2021 4:15 PM
>     *To:* DDI Structural Reform Working Group.
>     <ddi-srg at icpsr.umich.edu> <mailto:ddi-srg at icpsr.umich.edu>
>     *Subject:* [DDI-SRG] [CDI] Questions about
>     ControlledVocabularyEntry, PairedControlledVocabularyEntry and
>     Reference
>
>     Hi,
>
>     These are the new Native classes, with the old classes as extensions:
>
>     We can always define attributes of type
>     NativeControlledVocabularyEntry and NativeReference, which will
>     allow us to use the full-fledged list of attributes from the
>     sub-classes if necessary.
>
>     With that in mind:
>
>     1) shouldn't we then change the type of the attributes in
>     PairedControlledVocabulary to NativeControlledVocabularyEntry?
>
>     2) What's exactly "vocabulary" in ControlledVocabularyEntry? How
>     is it used?
>
>     3) Actually, how do we really use these things? I understand how
>     the Native classes work, but now it seems Reference might be used
>     to reference a term and an extent, like
>     PairedControlledVocabularyEntry, but in a different way. I think
>     there was an example somewhere that help people made sense of all
>     this, but I can't find it, and I fear we are making a mistake
>     somewhere... So many cross references between classes are making
>     me dizzy...
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Flavio
>
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